I need to know lures and leader materials, lengths and positions to set the spread.  My boat has 15' outriggers and a single manual downrigger with 10lb ball.  My reels are TLD 25's (till i get some "spare" cash...like that will happen ).

btw i stole this from a buddy

Port Flat, gets a red white cedar plug just outside the prop wash

On the Starboard Flat,Blue and White seawitch/ballyhoo

NOW, the long riggers get creative. Blue and white chugger on the port, and a Rainbow or Blue White Spreader Bar with chase bait on the STBD

it will take a while but with testing what gets knockdowns and hook ups you figure out whats best working for you....

Throw a couple of teasers in the mix and you are all set.

MAYBE a cedar plug way out back down center


33' Palmetto CC
Twin 275 Verados

you thrown a bird out there any??

Throw a teaser in the first wave.  I like at least one real big artificial on one short flat (big orange and black softhead maybe) and a Yozuri bonita opposite a wave closer.

balyyoo combos or small lures (Ahi P maybe) on the outriggers and a bird plug combo or jet head on the shotgun. 

Starting out, 5 lines will be plenty to keep up with.  Just my .02

no.  I prefer monster loud obnoxious teasers.  I'm by no means an expert, though.

The general formation is an inverted V pattern with a long line down (or two) down the center.  So for a start I would try one outrigger bait per side and one on each corner and possibly one way back cedar plug down the middle.  So that's 5 lines out.  Should I run a staggered pattern for those 4? 

So one vote for chuggers on the outriggers and one for ilander (or similar).  Both of those are essentially a surface baits.  Do you think I should put one of those 4 down deeper with a trolling weight?  Or is that just more trouble than it is worth?

Go to a reputable tackle store and ask this question. Swallow your pride right now and you will move ahead much quicker.

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Use nylon rope attached to 5-10 feet of mono and then the daisy chain.  works great.


33' Palmetto CC
Twin 275 Verados

 Mike

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Yep I will definately do that. So the article from SWS says stagger the spread (including the corners).  Seems like I would run low drag baits off the riggers and heavier baits off the corners and a cedar plug on the shotgun.

If I use a teaser like a daisy chain, do I set that first corner bait just behind the daisy chain and then the opposite corner bait staggered from the first one?  Or do you guys think its better to set the corner opposite the teaser up close and then the other corner further back?  And now I wonder if running a daisy chain or teaser is even a good idea for now till I get some experience...just another line to clear when we get a knock down!

That would depend on where you're running the chain from.

Here's what we do:

Fender teaser below the first wave from a stern cleat - about as tight to the boat as you can get it.

Bowling pin teaser set just after the first wave from a stern cleat.

Largest most active lure runs on the first wave.  It takes a special type of lure to run right here and some trial and error.  on a smaller boat, you may just be stuck running it on the low face of the second wave.

Large plunger style on the long corner - low face of 2nd wave

Squid chains from bridge teaser on short riggers run at 3rd and 4th wave - one per side.

We follow the chains with a rigger lure of some sort following close behind the squid chain.

Always run a shotgun lure way back - wave 5 or further.  Jetted lures like an ahi pussy, islander, super pro jet are great.  Something that doesn't do much moer than splash that's easy to eat.

Sometimes we run a 2nd center line between the two bridge teasers.

Start with the largest and most active lure closest to the boat. 

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I read posts that people are trolling for wahoo or tuna or billfish...I was hoping to set something that might draw strikes from any of those without narrowing down to just one type.

I have already learned that wahoo slash and aren't leader shy (so baits with wire or cable?).  Tuna have great eye sight and are boat shy (cedar plug way back, probably shotgun with heavy floro leader).  Dolphin and billfish are going to hit similar rigs (i assume heavy mono?).

So questions I still have are about the leaders.  Mono? Wire/cable?  Are wahoo short strikers not likely to take a rig on heavy mono or shoudl I rig everything with wire/cable except the cedar plug on the shotgun line?

Thanks BB

I like this advice!  Keep it simple stupid (which might actually work for me!).  So how should I rig them?

Is this the same principle as a daisy chain with one trailing bait?  Draw the fish in as close to the boat as possible so when they drop away they have a lot of stragglers to pick off?

Live cigs on the sides

And a medium hardtail on the downrigger

oh ya over some stucture in 350 - 400ft or less of water!

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GT...that sounds like a kingfish spread.  Interesting twist from what everyone else seems to be saying.  Other than the downrigger would you add weights to any of those?  Do you try to stagger them in the same inverted V?

I "pin" rig my ballyhoo and usually use springs. Others probably get fancier but this is a simple easy rig and the baits run true. I use all mono (2-300 lb) and no wire. Yes, you may get a rare cut-off if you get into a hot big wahoo bite but I have also caught many 60-70lb hooters on this rig. I am personally willing to take the chance because I am not out targeting wahoo anyway. Go by Outcast and have them rig 1 or 2 and take it from there.